Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 10:14:45 -1000 From: salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) Message-Id: <1993Nov4.201445.29650@funet.fi> Organization: Finnish University and Research Network FUNET Subject: Signatures in rec.kites I know signatures belong to usenet culture. I occasionally enjoy reading them (like Dan's disclaimer in his last address faq posting:-) But, and I am sure not being the only one, who archives rec.kites articles and has the problem of cleaning the archives from non relevant header and signature lines. I like to keep the name, email address, date and subject. It's pretty easy to filter header lines. Signatures are problem. If somebody knows an algorithm or a program, please email to me. Meanwhile I suggest that (ESPECIALLY ALL "ACTIVE") contributors will modify their signature not to be like, but follow the model: (the keyword: ".Signature:" is important!) Yours Sincerely Simo Salanne .Signature: Sailing taught me to hate the lack of wind. Kiting taught me to love the wind. -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 05:56:20 -1000 From: salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) Message-Id: <1993Nov7.155620.25423@funet.fi> Organization: Finnish University and Research Network FUNET Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In <1993Nov4.201445.29650@funet.fi> salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) writes: >(the keyword: ".Signature:" is important!) Colin and Lee sent me email and suggested that "--" is the Standard tag for the beginning of signature. I'll rely on that when filtering my archives. Now the "algorithm" is very simple. Thanks Simo -- -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:07:45 -1000 From: djharris@novell.com (David J. Harris) Message-Id: Organization: NOVELL NDP Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In article <1993Nov7.155620.25423@funet.fi> salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) writes: >Colin and Lee sent me email and suggested that "--" is the >Standard tag for the beginning of signature. I'll rely on >that when filtering my archives. Now the "algorithm" is very >simple. >Thanks >Simo >-- >-- I'm confused. Is that: -- David | mhs: djharris@novell J. | inet: djharris@sjfsmtp.novell.com Harris | cserve: 71776,523 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- or what? David | mhs: djharris@novell J. | inet: djharris@sjfsmtp.novell.com Harris | cserve: 71776,523 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 03:34:57 -1000 From: ilh@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) Message-Id: Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites I believe that signatures in news articles should start with a *complete line* consisting of "-- ". I think the space is supposed to be there, but what do I know... You don't need a second one after your signature because everthing after the "-- " is considered a signature. (I wonder if mine comes out right. Is there a space after the -- ? The space probably isn't important.) -- Lee Hetherington ilh@lcs.mit.edu = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 14:16:54 -1000 From: dbell@lobby.ti.com (Dick Bell) Message-Id: <931110181654@dbell.dseg.ti.com> Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In article djharris@novell.com (David J. Harris) writes: >> In article <1993Nov7.155620.25423@funet.fi> salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) writes: >> >> >Colin and Lee sent me email and suggested that "--" is the >> >Standard tag for the beginning of signature. I'll rely on >> >that when filtering my archives. Now the "algorithm" is very >> >simple. >> >> >Thanks >> >Simo >> >-- >> >-- >> >> >> I'm confused. Is that: >> I think it's like this. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dick Bell dbell@lobby.ti.com (Work) dickbell@netcom.com (Home) Dallas, Tx. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 01:41:36 -1000 From: M.N.Oakden@durham.ac.uk (Mark N Oakden) Message-Id: Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Subject: Re Signatures in rec.kites Hi all, Simo Salanne writes: >After studying some rec.kites postings my guess is that articles, >which are posted from a newsreader (nn, tin, pnews, etc...) have >"--". Articles posted from email software via news/mailing list >gateway does not have "--", unless it's included in .signature >file itself??? Correct me if I am wrong. You are wrong :-) my message is posted via the news/mailing list gateway using the HP version of the elm e-mail program and it automatically puts a "--" at the top of my signature (i.e. it's in the message but *not* in my .signature file itself.) I don't know what other email programs do by default though (so you're probably right, about some of the postings.) >Smooth Signatures >Simo (<-- this is the last line in message body...) >-- >Simo.Salanne@csc.fi Smooth Corrections!, Mark-wishing-he-had-the-self-restraint-to-have-a-1-line-.sig-Oakden. -- M.N.Oakden@durham.ac.uk | Centre for Particle Theory, | "Ploughing the field 19681::MNO | University of Durham, | for cherry-hemp - | Durham, DH1 3LH, UK. | storm echoes." = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:31:23 -1000 From: salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) Message-Id: <1993Nov11.093123.17844@funet.fi> Organization: Finnish University and Research Network FUNET Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In ilh@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) writes: >I believe that signatures in news articles should start with a *complete >line* consisting of "-- ". I think the space is supposed to be there, >but what do I know... You don't need a second one after your signature >because everthing after the "-- " is considered a signature. >(I wonder if mine comes out right. Is there a space after the -- ? >The space probably isn't important.) >-- In your message there is no space after "--", just newline. After studying some rec.kites postings my guess is that articles, which are posted from a newsreader (nn, tin, pnews, etc...) have "--". Articles posted from email software via news/mailing list gateway does not have "--", unless it's included in .signature file itself??? Correct me if I am wrong. Smooth Signatures Simo (<-- this is the last line in message body...) -- Simo.Salanne@csc.fi -- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 08:27:58 -1000 From: djharris@novell.com (David J. Harris) Message-Id: Organization: NOVELL NDP Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In article <1993Nov11.093123.17844@funet.fi> salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) writes: >Smooth Signatures >Simo (<-- this is the last line in message body...) >-- >Simo.Salanne@csc.fi >-- Actually, Simo, I think the second set is unecessary...until I hear further, I'll stick with this... -- David | mhs: djharris@novell J. | inet: djharris@sjfsmtp.novell.com Harris | cserve: 71776,523 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 08:45:24 -1000 From: djharris@novell.com (David J. Harris) Message-Id: Organization: NOVELL NDP Subject: Re: Re Signatures in rec.kites In article M.N.Oakden@durham.ac.uk (Mark N Oakden) writes: [deletia] >You are wrong :-) my message is posted via the news/mailing list >gateway using the HP version of the elm e-mail program and it >automatically puts a "--" at the top of my signature (i.e. it's in the >message but *not* in my .signature file itself.) I don't know what >other email programs do by default though (so you're probably right, >about some of the postings.) As for myself, I view and reply to news via Trumpet, which, as a news reader, does NOT place the --'s before my signature. However, I receive email via an MHS router onto DaVinci Email. It doesn't have ANY Internet-type features. I have to manually add a signature when I'm replying to the Internet.... Basically, there seems to be no standard for this kind of software, however, Unix-based software (like yours?) seems to be a little more accomodating. In case you're curious, I use MHS mail because the majority of my inter-company mail is via MHS. -- David | mhs: djharris@novell J. | inet: djharris@sjfsmtp.novell.com Harris | cserve: 71776,523 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 12:53:06 -1000 From: toddb@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Todd Blakaitis) Message-Id: Organization: Villanova University Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In article <931110181654@dbell.dseg.ti.com> dbell@lobby.ti.com writes: >I think it's like this. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...kind of a strange thread to be having in rec.kites, but possibly I can help settle the matter. "--" is the recognized/accepted symbol. It is the method that anonymous servers use. Once they hit a line, where the first two characters are "--" then from that line, till the EOF, is deleted. (paraphrased... everything from then on is ignored) That means, any of these are valid... -- ==-->> KITES, KITES, KITES!!! <<==-- -------------------------------- etc, etc... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:22:38 -1000 From: dbell@lobby.ti.com (Dick Bell) Message-Id: <931115222238@dbell.dseg.ti.com> Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Subject: Re: Signatures in rec.kites In article <931110181654@dbell.dseg.ti.com> dbell@lobby.ti.com (Dick Bell) writes: This is just a test. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dick Bell dbell@lobby.ti.com (Work) dickbell@netcom.com (Home) Dallas, Tx. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =