Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 06:56:39 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <36pd47$5c5@geog40.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: Flow-Form questions In article <36p8um$lvn$1@usenet.pa.dec.com>, Ken Serack wrote: >I have read all of the related info in the archive, but still have a few >questions: > >1. What is a 252? I have seen mention of this in recent notes, but am not >familiar with this kite. Is this commercially available or is it a plan kite >in a book? What are it's dimensions? A 252 is, as far as I know, the largest commercially available FlowForm, available from the licensed manufcture, Air Affairs. The 252 refers to the square footage, but I don't think that takes into account the huge v-shaped hole missing between the legs of the kites. For instance, the T-8 from Air Affairs is 36" x 32" -- 8 square feet -- but there's probably close to a square foot missing from this. The 252 is, I believe about 17x15 (which is to say that the "square footage" is not accurate.) Anyone know the true dimensions. This is *not* a kite for which you're likely to find published plans. ;-) >2. What fabric is generally used? Rowlands book says 1.25 oz. Can I use >1.5 oz? What size is the kite? I've built my 8's and 16's out of .75oz, and would use the same material for larger kites. You may need more reinforcing on larger kites. >3. In Rowland's plans, do I need to add the seam allowance to the rib >patterns, or is that included in the drawing?? >4. What weight of line should I use for bridle lines? Ask Simo. He's the one obsessed with that thing Rowlands insists on calling a FlowForm. ;-) Jeff (who sez Sutton all the way!) -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted | | | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs | |jeffy@eng.umd.edu | to me. | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 05:45:26 -1000 From: serack@slugbt.zso.dec.com (Ken Serack) Message-Id: <36p8um$lvn$1@usenet.pa.dec.com> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Subject: Flow-Form questions I am in the process of building at least one flow-form. I have read all of the related info in the archive, but still have a few questions: 1. What is a 252? I have seen mention of this in recent notes, but am not familiar with this kite. Is this commercially available or is it a plan kite in a book? What are it's dimensions? 2. What fabric is generally used? Rowlands book says 1.25 oz. Can I use 1.5 oz? What are the trade-offs? 3. In Rowland's plans, do I need to add the seam allowance to the rib patterns, or is that included in the drawing?? 4. What weight of line should I use for bridle lines? Thanks for your help, Ken Serack = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:24:38 -1000 From: salanne@convex.csc.FI (Simo Salanne) Message-Id: <36v936$aab@pobox.csc.fi> Organization: STACK Finland Subject: Re: Flow-Form questions In <36pd47$5c5@geog40.umd.edu> jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes: >In article <36p8um$lvn$1@usenet.pa.dec.com>, >Ken Serack wrote: >>3. In Rowland's plans, do I need to add the seam allowance to the rib >>patterns, or is that included in the drawing?? >>4. What weight of line should I use for bridle lines? >Ask Simo. He's the one obsessed with that thing Rowlands insists on >calling a FlowForm. ;-) What follows comes between my ears, if you have Rowlands book at hand you can check it... - You should ADD your favourite seam allowance to the rib patterns. - I have used 75 kg ( 150 lb) braided polyester for bridle lines. (a loop with Prusik knot makes it easy to adjust them...:-) If you want to make real BIG flow form, ask Patrick ,-) Smooth Winds Simo (who saiz, have a look at the pictures at ftp.hawaii.edu) -- Simo.Salanne@csc.fi STACK Finland = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =