Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:07:13 -1000 From: kevaa@aol.com (Kev A A) Message-Id: <4euqi1$84u@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Flexfoil stack line strength?? With the addition of 2 flexi's over this winter, which brings my total up to two 6 footers and two 8 footers. Yeah, I know a small stack compared to some but, you've gotta start somewhere. My question is do the train lines need to be stronger from the first kite to the second and so on or can you keep them pretty much the same strength also what is a good strength for the train lines?? Well thanks for any help and maybe some day I'll slide by you on my butt, considering I haven't the cash to buy a buggy, and I don't trust myself to build one. Kevin = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:49:00 -1000 From: windwiz@west.net (Dan Rubesh) Message-Id: <4ev0gs$t1c@acme.sb.west.net> Organization: WestNet Communications Subject: Re: Flexfoil stack line strength?? In article <4euqi1$84u@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Kev A A wrote: >With the addition of 2 flexi's over this winter, which brings my total up >to two 6 footers and two 8 footers. Yeah, I know a small stack compared >to some but, you've gotta start somewhere. My question is do the train >lines need to be stronger from the first kite to the second and so on or >can you keep them pretty much the same strength also what is a good >strength for the train lines?? Well thanks for any help and maybe some >day I'll slide by you on my butt, considering I haven't the cash to buy a >buggy, and I don't trust myself to build one. > > > Kevin You can use the same line strength from kite to kite.. For your stack, I'd suggest a 4 or 5 foot spacing with the train/stack lines made of 300# line with large loops tied off to attach to your Flexi spars.. Using this method, each kite in the stack 'flies itself' and the spar tips on the front kite are not subjected to the accumulated stress of the train. If you use insividual short train lines about 4' long and larkshead them to the spars as you go along the stack it's possible to put enough stress on the lead kite spar to shear the tip(s) off of the spar.. For flying my 'Flexi stack from hell' (6x6', 2x8' and 3x10') I've made stack lines like I was shown by George Baskette several years ago.. I use 4mm line (spectra or kevlar cored) with pigtails made of 250# dacron attached to the main 4mm line with Prussik (sp? like a double larkshead) at 4' and 6' intervals.. I use 4' spacing for the 6' and 8' kites, and 6' spacing for the 10' kites.. All of this is difficult to describe in text, and my ASCII art sux.. FlexiFoil puts out a pamphlet having to do with stacking that I'll be glad to send free of charge to anyone that wants it.. Just e-mail me your USnail address.. Ob. Disclaimer: I am a sport kite dealer and carry some of the above mentioned product(s). As such, my opinions may tend to be somewhat subjective. -- Dan Rubesh GO Wind Wizard windwiz@west.net FLY A P.O. Box 5747 http://www.west.net/~windwiz SPORT KITE San Buenaventura, CA 93005 (805) 659-5769 (voice & fax) T.B.N.K. Member: AKA & KTA = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:07:13 -1000 From: kevaa@aol.com (Kev A A) Message-Id: <4euqi1$84u@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Flexfoil stack line strength?? With the addition of 2 flexi's over this winter, which brings my total up to two 6 footers and two 8 footers. Yeah, I know a small stack compared to some but, you've gotta start somewhere. My question is do the train lines need to be stronger from the first kite to the second and so on or can you keep them pretty much the same strength also what is a good strength for the train lines?? Well thanks for any help and maybe some day I'll slide by you on my butt, considering I haven't the cash to buy a buggy, and I don't trust myself to build one. Kevin = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:49:00 -1000 From: windwiz@west.net (Dan Rubesh) Message-Id: <4ev0gs$t1c@acme.sb.west.net> Organization: WestNet Communications Subject: Re: Flexfoil stack line strength?? In article <4euqi1$84u@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Kev A A wrote: >With the addition of 2 flexi's over this winter, which brings my total up >to two 6 footers and two 8 footers. Yeah, I know a small stack compared >to some but, you've gotta start somewhere. My question is do the train >lines need to be stronger from the first kite to the second and so on or >can you keep them pretty much the same strength also what is a good >strength for the train lines?? Well thanks for any help and maybe some >day I'll slide by you on my butt, considering I haven't the cash to buy a >buggy, and I don't trust myself to build one. > > > Kevin You can use the same line strength from kite to kite.. For your stack, I'd suggest a 4 or 5 foot spacing with the train/stack lines made of 300# line with large loops tied off to attach to your Flexi spars.. Using this method, each kite in the stack 'flies itself' and the spar tips on the front kite are not subjected to the accumulated stress of the train. If you use insividual short train lines about 4' long and larkshead them to the spars as you go along the stack it's possible to put enough stress on the lead kite spar to shear the tip(s) off of the spar.. For flying my 'Flexi stack from hell' (6x6', 2x8' and 3x10') I've made stack lines like I was shown by George Baskette several years ago.. I use 4mm line (spectra or kevlar cored) with pigtails made of 250# dacron attached to the main 4mm line with Prussik (sp? like a double larkshead) at 4' and 6' intervals.. I use 4' spacing for the 6' and 8' kites, and 6' spacing for the 10' kites.. All of this is difficult to describe in text, and my ASCII art sux.. FlexiFoil puts out a pamphlet having to do with stacking that I'll be glad to send free of charge to anyone that wants it.. Just e-mail me your USnail address.. Ob. Disclaimer: I am a sport kite dealer and carry some of the above mentioned product(s). As such, my opinions may tend to be somewhat subjective. -- Dan Rubesh GO Wind Wizard windwiz@west.net FLY A P.O. Box 5747 http://www.west.net/~windwiz SPORT KITE San Buenaventura, CA 93005 (805) 659-5769 (voice & fax) T.B.N.K. 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