Date:	Wed, 19 Oct 1994 20:39:49 -1000
From:	tanaka_be@swam1.enet.dec.com (Bert Tanaka)
Message-Id: <9410200638.AA23434@mts-gw.pa.dec.com>
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Subject: Re: "Double Turtle"

Philippe Lepez writes:
-Could someone explain how you can go out of a "double turtle".  Btw. what 
-is the regular name of this move ?
-By double turtle I refer to a situation where your kite, beeing in a 
-turtle (feather) situation, keep on spining a half turn, passes its noze 
-between the lines and thus is flying in a normal way except that the 
-lines are warped arround him. 

Sounds like a kite dependent move, Philippe.  The very few times I've
been able get my Katana in this position, just pulling the lines would
flip it back out.  This move is also called a "back flip" by some.

The only kite that I've tried that does this easily is the Prism Ion.  You
can turtle the Ion by just over snap-stalling it.  You can keep it 
feathered over by keeping tension off the lines because as soon as you
pull up, it pops right back out.  Its a neat trick because you can snap
stall it over at just about any elevation, and because it recovers so
easily, you can do this trick very close to the ground.  Anyways, if you
really hit the snap stall extra hard, with extra speed and immediately 
snap your hands forward afterwards, the Ion will back flip over and up
through the lines.  The recovery is difficult only because the Ion has
a tendency to snag lines when it unrolls itself.  If you strung a piece
of line thru the wing tips and tail, and, modified the whiskers, it might
return flip through cleanly, though.

To undo your kite, you might try just pushing one hand forward to get your
kite inverted and then try pulling it out (sometimes a change of position
will help).  The Reactor will fly in the position you describe.  Team Tsunami 
used a flip launch once upon a time and would make the kite forward roll out
by snapping both lines sharply.  At any rate, pretty nice stunt!

     -Bert


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