Date:	Wed, 5 Apr 1995 15:18:34 -1000
From:	kitekid@aol.com (Kite Kid)
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Subject: Re: Does water hurt ripstock?

I moving to a shoreside home where the water is 1 ft. deep everywhere.  I
can walk out on a sand bottom for blocks.  The water is brackish.  Will my
ripstock nylon kites take a regular dip?  I have a tivac delta I could use
but I'd miss the excitement of flying a stunt kite.


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Date:	Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:55:03 -1000
From:	kitejag@aol.com (KITEJAG)
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Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Subject: Re: Does water hurt ripstock?

Reference to your question on water hurting ripstop...probably not.  Be
sure if you get salt water (or brakish water) on the kite to rinse it
THOROUGHLY in fresh water.  I wouldn't recommend using ordinary soap on
ripstop...rumor has it that it washes off the resins...I have, however, 
quite successfully used woolite to wash very dirty sails (by hand) with no
ill effects.  

The only real warning I'd have is to thoroughly dry the kite before you
put it away...I have a close friend who put a kite away wet and after a
couple of weeks it had terrible midew that left permanent stains...not a
fitting end to what was a beautiful custom kite 

Hope this helps.  
John A. Gabby Jr.      

Think kindly thoughts.


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Date:	Sat, 8 Apr 1995 09:39:57 -1000
From:	andrewh@holly.harvard.edu (Andrew Hawken)
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Subject: Re: Does water hurt ripstock?

It depends on how fast the ripstop is moving when it hits the water :-)

Sorry  Saw the thread and couldnt resist....
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Date:	Mon, 10 Apr 1995 05:33:29 -1000
From:	sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki)
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Organization: Harvard OIT Network Services
Subject: Re: Does water hurt ripstock?


One thing to do is when your kite takes a good dunk is to make sure
that there isn't much tension in the sail as it dries. With stunt
kites, this means loosening the bungee cords and leech lines.

Different types of nylon will shrink differently too. I was talking to
Bob Hanson once and he noted that one of his Little Sisters (or maybe
Big Brothers) never flew the same after being dunked in water...

Also be aware that you can have corrosion problems with metal
fittings. Some bicycles made out of graphite tubes with aluminum lugs
had real problems with corrosion.
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