Date: 17 May 93 12:44:16 GMT From: sc5@prism.gatech.edu (CSEPLO,STEPHEN P) Message-Id: <97859@hydra.gatech.EDU> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May17.074829.17858@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: Carbon fiber cutting idea (editted). >> Take the rod - put in the electric drill - give it ~50 rps and hold >> a sharp knife against it. > >With out more detail, I think I am interpreting this procedure as being (liability diatribe deleted) What I really wonder about is what happens to the end of the tube that you put in the chuck of the drill motor? It would seem to me that it would get all marred up and ugly looking to say nothing of affecting its structural properties. Or is this the end you throw away? Gentle breezes. -- The Mad Hata "Hey, Mon....Tako Kichi!" = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: 17 May 93 07:48:29 -0500 From: vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Message-Id: <1993May17.074829.17858@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <9305170938.AA03831@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de>, nowak@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de writes: > hi there, > I found a nice (and new???) way to cut carbon rods very precisly and > accurate. > Take the rod - put in the electric drill - give it ~50 rps and hold > a sharp knife against it. I am interested in this idea. How do you do it safely? How do you hold the loose end while cutting? Have you had one fly off yet and become an unguided missle? What do you really think OSHA would think of this if you were doing it in a work environment? Is this safe enough for you to let your wife do this with minimum instructions? I am not flaming your idea, I am trying to see if this is safe enough to recommend to others or possible be included in the FAQ. With out more detail, I think I am interpreting this procedure as being unsafe. Actually, this looks like something I would do when no one was looking but would not recommend to anyone. I run into this a lot at the university I lecture at. "Here is how I do it, but if you do it you may kill yourself." It is a liability problem, so the schools duck out and not recommend anything anyone could get hurt on. To many lawyers looking for a job. :-) Keep your lines tight, Vic > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: 17 May 93 08:03:17 -0500 From: vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Message-Id: <1993May17.080317.17859@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May17.074829.17858@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: > In article <9305170938.AA03831@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de>, nowak@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de writes: >> hi there, >> I found a nice (and new???) way to cut carbon rods very precisly and >> accurate. >> Take the rod - put in the electric drill - give it ~50 rps and hold >> a sharp knife against it. > > I am interested in this idea. How do you do it safely? > How do you hold the loose end while cutting? Have you had one fly > off yet and become an unguided missle? What do you really think OSHA > would think of this if you were doing it in a work environment? > Is this safe enough for you to let your wife do this with minimum > instructions? I am not flaming your idea, I am trying to see if this > is safe enough to recommend to others or possible be included in the FAQ. > With out more detail, I think I am interpreting this procedure as being > unsafe. You may wonder of my source of self-rightiousness. I just layed down $80 bucks for a hi-speed shaft cutter. Ye ol kite shop is getting rather spiffy these days. And hopefuly safer. The set up is getting an exaust system this week. Of course, I will capture the dust. :-) It is a Horizon cut off available at archery shops. There seems to be sales at several places. Keep em tight, Vic = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:49:26 GMT From: sasaki@das.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: <1993May17.144926.17986@das.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard University Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May17.080317.17859@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: >You may wonder of my source of self-rightiousness. I just layed down $80 >bucks for a hi-speed shaft cutter. Ye ol kite shop is getting rather >spiffy these days. And hopefuly safer. The set up is getting an exaust >system this week. Of course, I will capture the dust. :-) It is a Horizon >cut off available at archery shops. There seems to be sales at several places. If you are going to be doing a lot of shaft cutting, I recommend getting one of these cutters. I've had one for years now and have cut hundreds of graphite and fiberglass shafts as well as aluminum and brass tubing. This tool makes cutting so easy that I wonder why I didn't buy one a long time ago. I too am working on a hood to hook up to my shop vac to catch the dust. Wear eye protection while using it too. -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Services Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: 17 May 93 10:34:09 -0500 From: vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Message-Id: <1993May17.103409.17861@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <97859@hydra.gatech.EDU>, sc5@prism.gatech.EDU (CSEPLO,STEPHEN P) writes: > In article <1993May17.074829.178> (liability diatribe deleted) > > What I really wonder about is what happens to the end of the tube that > you put in the chuck of the drill motor? It would seem to me that it would > get all marred up and ugly looking to say nothing of affecting its > structural properties. Or is this the end you throw away? > Beats me! Not my post! I think the original post is probably still available. I just saw it here. Monday morning. 7/17/93 I was so concerned about the safety I did not think about the quality of the product. But if you can get past the posibility of getting hurt with the flailing end, after all if you put pressure with the knife you will bend the shaft somwhat, the end will surely flair off center, your questions will surely have to be answered. Maybe your question was retorical and you have had some idea what would happen all along. :-) Keep em tight, Vic = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 17:39:48 GMT From: houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) Message-Id: <1993May18.173948.7528@rtsg.mot.com> Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May17.074829.17858@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: >In article <9305170938.AA03831@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de>, nowak@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de writes: >> hi there, >> I found a nice (and new???) way to cut carbon rods very precisly and >> accurate. >> Take the rod - put in the electric drill - give it ~50 rps and hold >> a sharp knife against it. > >I am interested in this idea. How do you do it safely? >How do you hold the loose end while cutting? Have you had one fly >off yet and become an unguided missle? What do you really think OSHA >would think of this if you were doing it in a work environment? >Is this safe enough for you to let your wife do this with minimum >instructions? > >Vic Hey, Vic - keep your sexist comments off the net, OK? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: 18 May 93 23:34:10 -0500 From: vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Message-Id: <1993May18.233410.17874@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May18.173948.7528@rtsg.mot.com>, houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes: > In article <1993May17.074829.17858@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: >>In article <9305170938.AA03831@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de>, nowak@wrcd1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de writes: >>> hi there, >>> I found a nice (and new???) way to cut carbon rods very prec > > Hey, Vic - keep your sexist comments off the net, OK? Not sexist unless you are hypersenstive to such things and are really looking. I used the example of his wife as an example of someone you cared a lot about. Ok I'll say it. Someone you love. I have been in to many factories were supvisors treated women like s**t but they would not begin to treat their wives in such an uncarry way. Also they did not explain things very well to them, but wanted high production and also to pay them low wages. I noticed your name is Elizabeth, take your first name and my last name together and you have the name of a famous women in history. If you are up on your women studies, you will know who I mean. She also has a US stamp with her picture on it. So much for that. I have seen examples of men who are taking the route of totally ignoring women, even in the work place, because of hypersensitivey on the part of females. I think this is also wrong. Enough of this, back to kites. Your message was to a private person. Is your e-mail function disabled? or do you see other example of "sexist remarks" you felt if necessary to teach us a lesson without knowing the nature of the student. Please respond via e-mail in the future. I will not respond on the kite news! Regards, Vic > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 10:44:04 -1000 From: houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) Message-Id: <1993May20.204404.16505@rtsg.mot.com> Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Subject: Re: carbon killer? Earlier this week I wrote: >> Hey, Vic - keep your sexist comments off the net, OK? I would just like to add a disclaimer (which I forgot to do) to clarify that my opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Liz = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 08:39:01 -1000 From: vgblackwell@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Message-Id: <1993May21.133901.17902@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service" Subject: Re: carbon killer? In article <1993May20.204404.16505@rtsg.mot.com>, houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes: > Earlier this week I wrote: > >>> Hey, Vic - keep your sexist comments off the net, OK? > > I would just like to add a disclaimer (which I forgot to > do) to clarify that my opinions do not necessarily reflect > those of my employer. > > -Liz When you did not respond to the e-mail, I thought maybe this was E-mail >From Motorola Cellular, I certainly was wondering why they would want to censure someone without an explanation. Have they contacted you yet? Regards, Vic > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =