Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 04:14:36 -1000 From: steveh@pyramid.com (Steve Hammatt) Message-Id: <3f3dgc$ok8@sword.eng.pyramid.com> Organization: Pyramid Technology Subject: Bridle Slipping I've noticed that the upper bridle connections to my Scorpion's bridle rings are very prone to slipping. Is there a simple trick to make the larkshead knot stay in one place better, whilst still allowing easy asjustment ? Steve. --- Steve Hammatt steveh@pyramid.com | Do any other UK rec.kiters steveh@pyra.co.uk | fly at Windsor Great Park ? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 12:59:35 -1000 From: sasaki@netope.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: <3f4c8n$3hf@netope.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard OIT Network Services Subject: Re: Bridle Slipping In article <3f3dgc$ok8@sword.eng.pyramid.com>, steveh@pyramid.com (Steve Hammatt) writes: |>Is there a simple trick to make the larkshead knot stay in one place |>better, whilst still allowing easy asjustment ? I would be tempted to change the bridles. I use Shanti polyester because it has a bumpy surface that seems to hold better than other types of line... -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@harvard.edu Network Services Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 01:01:27 -1000 From: crowell@teleport.com (Carl Crowell) Message-Id: Organization: Kites By Carl Crowell Subject: Re: Bridle Slipping steveh@pyramid.com (Steve Hammatt) writes: >Is there a simple trick to make the larkshead knot stay in one place >better, whilst still allowing easy asjustment ? The old trick that we used to use way back in 1990 was bees wax. Newer higher teck possiblities include the use of a high tack adhesive lightly applied. Bees wax will stain your sail if it is a hot day, and of you use an adhesive, let it dry completely before setting you bridle so that you don't glue the bridle in place. carl ___________________________________________________ email: crowell@kite.com FTP: ftp.teleport.com/pub/users/crowell WWW: http://www.teleport.com/~crowell Kites By Carl Crowell - O.S.F.M. World Headquarters = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 12:28:56 -1000 From: norm@cup.hp.com (Norm Newlon) Message-Id: <3f4af8$le0@hpindda.cup.hp.com> Organization: Information Networks Division: Hewlett Packard Subject: Re: Bridle Slipping : Is there a simple trick to make the larkshead knot stay in one place : better, whilst still allowing easy asjustment ? Sure. Just move the larkshead out of the way temporarily, then rub a little beeswax (available at the hardware store) on the bridle line. -Norm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 04:27:00 -1000 From: Cyuen@rci.rogers.com (Calvan Yuen /vanc) Message-Id: <95Jan13.125444est.29515@janus.rogers.com> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Re: Bridle Slipping : Is there a simple trick to make the larkshead knot stay in one place : better, whilst still allowing easy asjustment ? Another way is to use a double-larks head, which involves putting a second (inside) loop as you're forming the knot. I can't do ascii graphic stuff very well, so I'll leave it up to others. Basically, you pull the line on each side of the knot to flatten it out and adjust, and you pull on it to compress and hold. I've seen it on a few commercial kites (usually the ones without bridle clips), and I remember it being mentioned in a magazine somewhere... Regards, Cal Yuen (cyuen@rci.rogers.com) Vancouver BC Canada = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 17:54:21 -1000 From: mrforsyth@aol.com (MRForsyth) Message-Id: <3fnc5d$kba@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Bridle Slipping Perhaps the best method that I have found to prevent bridle from slipping is to get rid of the metal loop or clip altogether and replace them with a pigtail. To do this, simply take a four inch length of 200 lb. waxed dacron, tie the ends together such that it forms a loop and double larkshead it where the clip used to be. After attached, larkshead the outhaul to the pigtail. To perform adjustments, pull on the bridle on either side of the double larkshead such that it flattens out. It should then easily slide along the bridle. When in the desired position, fold the larkshead over and it will lock in place and I guarantee that it will not slip. The fly lines attach with a larkshead knot on the pigtail and tighten on the knot that has been tied in the pigtail. This method provides many advantages to metal clips... The bridle will not wear, it is lighter than clips, and it is really simple to adjust. Good Luck, Mark. (I hope that this is not too confusing) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =