Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 02:40:33 -1000 From: pp@wsinti10.win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) Message-Id: <40q4k1$8g7@wsinti10.win.tue.nl> Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Subject: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Andy Wardley writes: >Seconded. The Box is even more radical than the Stranger and does >everything easier. Just look at it and it axels. Speak it's name >and it flat spins. Admire it's graphics and it slides. And that's >before you've even picked up the handles and launched it... So how about a nice picture of this kite then... I'm curious what it looks like. Anyone with a picture of it and a scanner ? Peter -- Peter Peters, pp@win.tue.nl, http://www.win.tue.nl/win/cs/fm/pp/ Like kites.... look at http://www.win.tue.nl/win/cs/fm/pp/kites/ and http://www.kfs.org/kites/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:14:21 -1000 From: Andy Wardley Message-Id: Organization: Peritas Multimedia Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) [...Box of Tricks...] > >So how about a nice picture of this kite then... I'm curious what >it looks like. >Anyone with a picture of it and a scanner ? Well I've got a Box of Tricks, a camera and a scanner. Consider it done! Might take a day or two to get the film processed. In the mean time, can someone suggest the best place to upload it to? Does hawaii (wherever it is these days) have a suitable upload directory or does someone want to incorporate it into a web page? Cheers Andy = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:29:36 -1000 From: bwg001@carina.unm.edu (Brian W. Gordon) Message-Id: <40qi1g$k5i@lynx.unm.edu> Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Peter Peters (pp@wsinti10.win.tue.nl) wrote: : So how about a nice picture of this kite then... I'm curious what : it looks like. : Anyone with a picture of it and a scanner ? As a big fan of the Stranger, I'm DYING to get ahold of a Box of Tricks. I'd love to see what one looks like. Is the Box available in the States yet? Keith Kidder = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 07:09:50 -1000 From: tom@minster.cs.york.ac.uk (Tom Jackson) Message-Id: <808506590.137537@minster.york.ac.uk> Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Peter Peters (pp@wsinti10.win.tue.nl) wrote: : Andy Wardley writes: : >Seconded. The Box is even more radical than the Stranger and does : >everything easier. Just look at it and it axels. Speak it's name : >and it flat spins. Admire it's graphics and it slides. And that's : >before you've even picked up the handles and launched it... : So how about a nice picture of this kite then... I'm curious what : it looks like. : Anyone with a picture of it and a scanner ? If you can wait just a couple of days I'll have it for you. I have the photos just need to find time to get them scanned. I'm building a web page for Fizz which will feature their full range of kites, including the new Fusion, Reflex and the Phantom Elites. It will be ready real soon - watch this space... tom. _____________________________________________________________________ Tom Jackson, * One thing about intellectuals, Research Manager (HISE Group), * they proved that they can be Dept. of Computer Science, * absolutely brilliant and have University of York, Heslington, * no idea what's going on. YORK. YO1 5DD. UK. * Woody Allen 'Annie Hall' Tel/fax: [+44] (01904) 432760 e-mail: tom@minster.york.ac.uk http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/tom/tom.html _____________________________________________________________________ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:57:51 -1000 From: tom@minster.cs.york.ac.uk (Tom Jackson) Message-Id: <808570671.13282@minster.york.ac.uk> Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Djskites (djskites@aol.com) wrote: : Just got back from Colombia and took a three new kites with me to spend : The Third kite was the Box of Tricks. This kite is wonderful. It will have : a slightly higher price than the Stranger, but I tested it directly with : the Stranger(which now belongs to a happy Colombian) and I found that it Somebody mentioned the other day that the Box of Tricks is a 3/4 kite. Perhaps it's worth mentioning given the current discussion on this kite that it is actually one of a family of three new stunt kites: The Reflex. The Box of Tricks The Fusion They are similar radical trick kites, but vary in size and graphics. The reflex is the smallest, the box of tricks the 3/4 and the fusion is the largest. I'll have pictures off them all (plus the new Elite) on my home page (not the Fizz page yet) before the end of the day. URL is http://dcpu1.cs.yok.ac.uk:6666/~tom/fun.html tom. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 07:09:50 -1000 From: tom@minster.cs.york.ac.uk (Tom Jackson) Message-Id: <808506590.137537@minster.york.ac.uk> Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Peter Peters (pp@wsinti10.win.tue.nl) wrote: : Andy Wardley writes: : >Seconded. The Box is even more radical than the Stranger and does : >everything easier. Just look at it and it axels. Speak it's name : >and it flat spins. Admire it's graphics and it slides. And that's : >before you've even picked up the handles and launched it... : So how about a nice picture of this kite then... I'm curious what : it looks like. : Anyone with a picture of it and a scanner ? If you can wait just a couple of days I'll have it for you. I have the photos just need to find time to get them scanned. I'm building a web page for Fizz which will feature their full range of kites, including the new Fusion, Reflex and the Phantom Elites. It will be ready real soon - watch this space... tom. _____________________________________________________________________ Tom Jackson, * One thing about intellectuals, Research Manager (HISE Group), * they proved that they can be Dept. of Computer Science, * absolutely brilliant and have University of York, Heslington, * no idea what's going on. YORK. YO1 5DD. UK. * Woody Allen 'Annie Hall' Tel/fax: [+44] (01904) 432760 e-mail: tom@minster.york.ac.uk http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/tom/tom.html _____________________________________________________________________ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 21:37:24 -1000 From: Andy Wardley Message-Id: Organization: Peritas Multimedia Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Brian W. Gordon writes: >As a big fan of the Stranger, I'm DYING to get ahold of a Box of Tricks. >I'd love to see what one looks like. Is the Box available in the States >yet? I heard a rumour that it was, but alas I know not where. If you want to get one shipped from the UK, I'm pretty sure Paul at Kosmic Kites will do it for you. He's got them in at the moment. The price is about 90 UK pounds. Add shipping and insurance on top of that and it might work out cheaper to wait until it's available in the States. Still, if you want to get an idea, I can ask him for you or you can ring him yourself on +44 (0)181 390 2221. Cheers Andy = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 03:34:38 -1000 From: tom@minster.cs.york.ac.uk (Tom Jackson) Message-Id: <808580078.137642@minster.york.ac.uk> Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Henk van Dijke (dart@euronet.nl) wrote: : In article <808570671.13282@minster.york.ac.uk>, tom@minster.york.ac.uk : (Tom Jackson) wrote: : > URL is http://dcpu1.cs.yok.ac.uk:6666/~tom/fun.html : > : > tom. : Dear Tom, : tried to acces your pages, but my computer tells me 'unable to locate host'. : Some spelling mistake in the URL maybe? : Looking forward to seeing the pics of the Box of Tricks... Oops - darn typo in the URL. Sorry folks. The correct URL for my home page is: http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/~tom/fun.html OR you can access the page of Fizz pictures directly at: http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/~tom/new-fizz.html Apologies for the confusion. tom. _____________________________________________________________________ Tom Jackson, * One thing about intellectuals, Research Manager (HISE Group), * they proved that they can be Dept. of Computer Science, * absolutely brilliant and have University of York, Heslington, * no idea what's going on. YORK. YO1 5DD. UK. * Woody Allen 'Annie Hall' Tel/fax: [+44] (01904) 432760 e-mail: tom@minster.york.ac.uk http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/tom/tom.html _____________________________________________________________________ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:10:23 -1000 From: djskites@aol.com (Djskites) Message-Id: <40rniv$7na@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) Just got back from Colombia and took a three new kites with me to spend some time on. One was my own new kite, the Jam Session, a little oversteer but great for tricks and beginners and has a very low price and includes a video(available in September in the US). The second was the new Phantom by Fizz. I used to compete with a Phantom in 91 and 92, this new kite is a real treat! more camber, deeper sail, leech line, great for precision and I found that it could handle all of the latest tricks too! The Third kite was the Box of Tricks. This kite is wonderful. It will have a slightly higher price than the Stranger, but I tested it directly with the Stranger(which now belongs to a happy Colombian) and I found that it to be much more stable in straight line flying(yes, trick kites don't have to axel constantly) and also it did do all of the tricks easy and even came up with some strange(forgive the term) ones. My hat is off to the Stranger because every one is now comparing the new ones to it! Good Job Andy! But, as in life, a new one comes along and out does it and that is.......... Box of Tricks!!! I like this kite so much, I want to import it to the US. When you fly one, you will buy one. Dodd = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:53:23 -1000 From: dart@euronet.nl (Henk van Dijke) Message-Id: Organization: Dart Design Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) In article <808570671.13282@minster.york.ac.uk>, tom@minster.york.ac.uk (Tom Jackson) wrote: > > URL is http://dcpu1.cs.yok.ac.uk:6666/~tom/fun.html > > tom. Dear Tom, tried to acces your pages, but my computer tells me 'unable to locate host'. Some spelling mistake in the URL maybe? Looking forward to seeing the pics of the Box of Tricks... Henk = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 14:59:10 -1000 From: kite.flyer@prostar.com (Kite Flyer) Message-Id: <000011C10000020E@prostar.com> Organization: ProStar Internet Gateway Subject: Re: Box of Tricks (was Re: MEFM v Stranger) where does one find a box of tricks??? would like to test fly one...must see if it is better than my stranger, which doesn't hold a candle to my MEFM... from: kite flyer@prostar.com alan councilman tacoma, wa (pres. north coast sky painters> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =