Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 09:54:35 -1000 From: sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: <405r1r$oqn@netope.harvard.edu> Organization: Harvard University - OIT/NSD Subject: Black Holes (was Re: Balck Holes !) In article <4023no$jj6@news1.best.com>, steveth@mindnet.com (Steve R. Thomas) writes: |>A.G.Lomas@reading.ac.uk(Andy) wrote: |> |>>Is anybody out there doing Black holes ? |> |>>There seems to be a lot of confusion as to exactly what moves makes up |>>this trick. |> |>>Who Invented it ? |> |>Miguel. |> |>>When was it first done? |> |>I'd say about two years ago... |> |>>What kites are capable ? |> |>Well, there's Miguel's kite, the California Wasp, which invented the |>move. Other than that, there's The Other Berkeley Kite (XTC), and any |>other sport kite that likes radical stall moves... I described to Jeff Poy what the move looked like and he said, "You mean like this?" Jeff did it on the second try with a California Katana that he had been flying for about 5 minutes. This just proves that it is mostly the pilot and not the kite... Miguel described it to me as a tip stab from about 10 feet (or higher) in the air. I think someone described how to fly it about a year ago in this group... -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Services Division 90 Melrose Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Arlington, MA 02174 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-646-1925 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:45:21 -1000 From: kevin@island.kites.com (Kevin Mayeshiro) Message-Id: <406fjh$gfs@malasada.lava.net> Organization: Island Kites Subject: Re: Black Holes (was Re: Balck Holes !) Marty Sasaki (sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu) wrote: : Miguel described it to me as a tip stab from about 10 feet (or higher) : in the air. I think someone described how to fly it about a year ago : in this group... Look for the following files in the archive. ftp://ftp.Hawaii.Edu/pub/rec/kites/potpourri/ black.hole.stunt.wow side.launch-black.hole the.black.hole.stunt - Kevin -- Kevin Mayeshiro kevin@island.kites.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 15:58:53 -1000 From: steveth@mindnet.com (Steve R. Thomas) Message-Id: <4094lm$h6t@news1.best.com> Organization: NetMind Media Subject: Re: Black Holes (was Re: Balck Holes !) sasaki@netopd.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) wrote: >I described to Jeff Poy what the move looked like and he said, "You >mean like this?" Jeff did it on the second try with a California >Katana that he had been flying for about 5 minutes. This just proves >that it is mostly the pilot and not the kite... Well, there are kites that just won't want to do it. I didn't mean to convey that *my* list was an exclusive one--I was trying to indicate a "genre" or "type" of sport kite. Which is to say, fast, radical kites that like to be stalled; the Wasp was an example; the Cal-Kat is too... The Tracer, for instance, is not an example. Etc. ____________ Steve Thomas steveth@mindnet.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =