Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 18:30:56 -1000 From: seckman@daktel.com Message-Id: <401gi0$2rl@news.corpcomm.net> Organization: Corporate Communications Subject: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? Has anyone flown both a 10 foot flexi and an 8 foot? I am looking for POWER! The Kite Shop I usually order from recommended the 8 foot flexi . He said the 10 footer doesn't pull that much harder than the 8 footer and that since I wanted to stack 3 or 4 it would be more economical. I'm wondering if he's truthful to me or justs wants to sell the 8 footers since he has them on hand. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 06:17:06 -1000 From: crowell@teleport.com (Carl Crowell) Message-Id: Organization: Kites By Carl Crowell Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? seckman@daktel.com writes: > He said the 10 footer doesn't pull that much harder > than the 8 footer and that since I wanted to stack 3 or 4 it would be more > economical. I'm wondering if he's truthful to me or justs wants to sell the > 8 footers since he has them on hand. It is my opinion (and not much more than that) that the 10' pulls 50more than the 8'. Thus three 8' would equal two 10' and six 8' would pull about the same as four 10'. I used to fly a three stack of 10', and that was enough for me, though if you want raw power... get a 10m Peel. carl __________________________________________________________ **** I have moved.... email me for an adress update ! **** email: crowell@teleport.com or crowell@kite.com http://www.teleport.com/~crowell Copyright 1995, Carl Crowell = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:26:27 -1000 From: bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk (bruce forest) Message-Id: Organization: Tunes, VRML and Fine Cheeses.. Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In article <401gi0$2rl@news.corpcomm.net>, seckman@daktel.com wrote: > Has anyone flown both a 10 foot flexi and an 8 foot? I am looking for POWER! The Kite Shop I > usually order from recommended the 8 foot flexi . He said the 10 footer doesn't pull that much harder > than the 8 footer and that since I wanted to stack 3 or 4 it would be more economical. I'm wondering if > he's truthful to me or justs wants to sell the 8 footers since he has them on hand. Which is an 8 footer? There is the Hot Shot (4ft) Stacker(6ft) Prospeed (6+ft) Super 10 (10 ft) and Hyper 12 12 ft) I didn't know there was an 8 footer. Whatever..I have a 3 x 10 stack, and I can't imagine more power having any use, except for buggies. In that case, a 10m Peel would do the trick better. The arm movement is too much for a buggy with 10's. Cheers.. -- bruce forest... bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk bforest@bliss.co.uk bliss@ibm.net 100135.173@compuserve.com PGP pubkey on your friendly neighborhood keyserver. Throw back the little ones, and pan fry the big ones.. Use tact, poise and reason, and gently squeeze them.. Becker/Fagen... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 02:43:21 -1000 From: ahclem0013@aol.com (AhClem0013) Message-Id: <40ngd9$r84@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In article <401gi0$2rl@news.corpcomm.net>, seckman@daktel.com writes: >Has anyone flown both a 10 foot flexi and an 8 foot? I am looking for POWER! >The Kite Shop I >usually order from recommended the 8 foot flexi . He said the 10 footer >doesn't pull that much harder >than the 8 footer and that since I wanted to stack 3 or 4 it would be more >economical. I'm wondering if >he's truthful to me or justs wants to sell the 8 footers since he has them on >hand. > > > > Both. I love 8' for flying solo in light winds, they stack well, etc. The 10' do pull more, they have more area, they stack well, but of course they require more arm motion to turn. aoxo = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:05:00 -1000 From: coreykite@aol.com (Coreykite) Message-Id: <40qnkc$pkf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In order to render a valid opinion... I would wonder what specific functions are you hoping to perform with your flexis? If control is paramount, perhaps the stack of 6ers is best. They turn quicker with less steering input. Lighter winds would dictate the larger sizes. There is less opportunity to manage power with bigger wings. Get back to us with more details. aoxomoxoa coreykite@aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:33:31 -1000 From: daveculp@bdt.com (Dave Culp) Message-Id: Organization: Beckemeyer Development, Oakland CA Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In article , bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk (bruce forest) wrote: > > Whatever..I have a 3 x 10 stack, and I can't imagine more power having any > use, except for buggies. In that case, a 10m Peel would do the trick > better. The arm movement is too much for a buggy with 10's. > definately go with 10 footers. I fly my kites from a 4.5 ft bar, and have no problems with arm movement. You get the added advantage of a "long arm" to help reach things, a club for claiming passing room, and you can (briefly) let go with one hand. I'd want to work out a foolproof deadman release before I tried it with buggies, though. Dave Culp = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:01:01 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk (bruce forest) writes: >Which is an 8 footer? There is the Hot Shot (4ft) Stacker(6ft) Prospeed >(6+ft) Super 10 (10 ft) and Hyper 12 12 ft) I didn't know there was an 8 >footer. They call it the Team 8 (or something similar). It is like a 10, but with shorted stiff carbon section. I heard a rumour that they were going to do a prospeed 8+, but I've not seen one... Andrew -- New to rec.kites? START HERE! | To: www@kfs.org send an email message like this->| Subject: service Skydiving is safe. Bungee is safe| http://www.kfs.org/kites/welcome/index.html Russian roulette is a calculated risk. Kite jumping is for morons = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:33:20 -1000 From: jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) Message-Id: <40vr0g$e6j@geog21.umd.edu> Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In article , Andrew Beattie wrote: >They call it the Team 8 (or something similar). It is like a 10, but with >shorted stiff carbon section. I heard a rumour that they were going to do >a prospeed 8+, but I've not seen one... I can't remember if it was at ECSKC '94 or the convention 5 months late (I'm pretty sure it was the former), but a local flyer bought in an auction a prototype 8' flexi made of 1/2oz icarex in the standard color combo of green/blue/pink (not the prospeed graphic). It flies as you'd expect. I'm not sure why the kite is not in production. Jeff -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted when one | |jburka@glue.umd.edu | occurs to me. *If* one occurs to me. | |http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jeffy/html/home.html | = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:28:56 -1000 From: Zackmac1@aol.com Message-Id: <950817232826_77458634@emout04.mail.aol.com> Organization: Harvard University Office of Information Technology Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In a message dated 95-08-17 18:29:55 EDT, jburka@Glue.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka) writes: > > I can't remember if it was at ECSKC '94 or the convention 5 months >late (I'm pretty sure it was the former), but a local flyer bought in an >auction a prototype 8' flexi made of 1/2oz icarex in the standard color >combo of green/blue/pink (not the prospeed graphic). > >It flies as you'd expect. I'm not sure why the kite is not in production. > > the pro team 8 icarex was put into production this year, they're great aox rob = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:41:02 -1000 From: windwiz@west.net (Dan Rubesh) Message-Id: <410uju$sue@acme.sb.west.net> Organization: WestNet Communications Subject: Re: 10' foot Flexi or 8'? In article , Andrew Beattie wrote: >bforest@bliss.demon.co.uk (bruce forest) writes: >>Which is an 8 footer? There is the Hot Shot (4ft) Stacker(6ft) Prospeed >>(6+ft) Super 10 (10 ft) and Hyper 12 12 ft) I didn't know there was an 8 >>footer. > >They call it the Team 8 (or something similar). It is like a 10, but with >shorted stiff carbon section. I heard a rumour that they were going to do >a prospeed 8+, but I've not seen one... > >Andrew It's called a Pro-Team 8', and the Icarex model _is_ in production.. It's with a 1/2 oz Icarex bag, like the Pro-Speed 6+, and is available in the same four tri-color colorways as the standard Pro-Team 8.. Cobra Kites (US FlexiFoil distributor) will be closed from 9/4/95 to 9/25/95, so get your Flexi orders in early!! :-) On another Flexi topic, I just got a 10' Ultralight Flexi spar from Clearwater, and it's amazing how little wind the 10 will fly in with that!! Ob. Disclaimer: I am a sport kite dealer and carry some of the above mentioned product(s). As such, my opinions may tend to be somewhat subjective. -- -- Dan Rubesh GO Wind Wizard windwiz@west.net FLY A P.O. Box 5747 danr@crash.cts.com SPORT KITE Ventura, CA 93005 (805) 659-5769 (voice & fax) T.B.N.K. Member: AKA & KTA = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =